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usetobeGS  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:38:54 AM(UTC)
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What is the likelihood of switching agencies?

Hypothetical: A federal applicant has a year and a semester (summer, fall, spring, summer) left until S(he) graduates with a JD, MBA, or Master in HR. Since the degrees are not completed, there is no reason to include them on the federal application given that they do not add anything. The applicant takes a job with the Department Of Agriculture as a Contact Representative (customer service representative){ https://www.usajobs.gov/...ob/ViewDetails/590889200}. After working for the DOA for a year and a semester, S(he) graduates. S(he) would like to get hired into one of the recent graduate programs for HR with USAF or the VA. I couldn’t find any recent graduate postings for the USAF or VA , so I put the IRS Forward Recent Graduate program position. I think it's first year is GS5, second year is GS7. (https://www.google.com/search?q=IRS+Forward+Recent+Graduate+Program+(Human+Resource+Analyst)&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS829US829&oq=IRS+Forward+Recent+Graduate+Program+(Human+Resource+Analyst)&aqs=chrome..69i57.14302j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&ibp=htl;jobs&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0-K3ix-DwAhVfAp0JHRGVAGQQkd0GMAB6BAgHEAE#fpstate=tldetail&htivrt=jobs&htiq=IRS+Forward+Recent+Graduate+Program+(Human+Resource+Analyst)&htidocid=7yo1Kkyi3ltD5J55AAAAAA%3D%3D).

So here is the question if one is a full time employee at the DOA with a year plus of service, would other agencies such as the USAF, VA and heck IRS, accept an application for a recent graduate program from a person who is employed by another agency?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:58:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: usetobeGS Go to Quoted Post
What is the likelihood of switching agencies?

Hypothetical: A federal applicant has a year and a semester (summer, fall, spring, summer) left until S(he) graduates with a JD, MBA, or Master in HR. Since the degrees are not completed, there is no reason to include them on the federal application given that they do not add anything. The applicant takes a job with the Department Of Agriculture as a Contact Representative (customer service representative){ https://www.usajobs.gov/...ob/ViewDetails/590889200}. After working for the DOA for a year and a semester, S(he) graduates. S(he) would like to get hired into one of the recent graduate programs for HR with USAF or the VA. I couldn’t find any recent graduate postings for the USAF or VA , so I put the IRS Forward Recent Graduate program position. I think it's first year is GS5, second year is GS7. (https://www.google.com/search?q=IRS+Forward+Recent+Graduate+Program+(Human+Resource+Analyst)&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS829US829&oq=IRS+Forward+Recent+Graduate+Program+(Human+Resource+Analyst)&aqs=chrome..69i57.14302j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&ibp=htl;jobs&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0-K3ix-DwAhVfAp0JHRGVAGQQkd0GMAB6BAgHEAE#fpstate=tldetail&htivrt=jobs&htiq=IRS+Forward+Recent+Graduate+Program+(Human+Resource+Analyst)&htidocid=7yo1Kkyi3ltD5J55AAAAAA%3D%3D).

So here is the question if one is a full time employee at the DOA with a year plus of service, would other agencies such as the USAF, VA and heck IRS, accept an application for a recent graduate program from a person who is employed by another agency?
If you are graduating with a graduate degree, you are also eligible to apply for the Presidential Management Fellows Program as well.

Also, you can aim a little higher in grade with a graduate degree than GS7 on education alone.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:04:01 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the info about the Presidential Scholars, it makes me think about rephrasing the question. Just for the record I am not concerned about the starting GS, and in fact I may have made an error when I said the posting starts at GS5. When I hear President Scholars program, it makes me think the program was designed attract new/ young outside talent to the federal government. Given that, will current employment in federal Agency A disqualify one from being considered for recent college graduate at postings at Agencies B ,C, and D?
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:54:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: usetobeGS Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for the info about the Presidential Scholars, it makes me think about rephrasing the question. Just for the record I am not concerned about the starting GS, and in fact I may have made an error when I said the posting starts at GS5. When I hear President Scholars program, it makes me think the program was designed attract new/ young outside talent to the federal government. Given that, will current employment in federal Agency A disqualify one from being considered for recent college graduate at postings at Agencies B ,C, and D?
Not at all. I've seen PMFs who were in their 40s, so as long as you have just graduated, you meet the requirements.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#5 Posted : Thursday, June 3, 2021 7:24:22 AM(UTC)
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I just want to be clear; the crux of my question is can one SWITCH AGENCIES? So, can one leave a CSR position in one agency to take a RECENT GRADUATE POSITION IN ANOTHER AGENCY?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:03:29 AM(UTC)
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I just want to be clear; the crux of my question is can one SWITCH AGENCIES? So, can one leave a CSR position in one agency to take a RECENT GRADUATE POSITION IN ANOTHER AGENCY?
Of course you can switch agencies. Slavery and indentured servitude (except for prisoners) has been illegal in the US for a while now. The issue is getting referred and interviewed/hired. That requires a good resume. Which goes to your original question which asked "likelihood" of switching agencies. No-one here can answer that question without a lot more info.

What is your degree in? STEM subject, odds increase. French literature of the 15th Century...not so high.
How good is your resume? Detailed with Impacts/results, and lots connecting you to the type of work you want to get into, with courses taken that directly relate to the position?

And so on.

Edited by user Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:09:47 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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